most want washington to come up with a solution the docket designed by russia would make the organizations helping americans adopt to russia need international recognized convention but inside russia it's a different story children's rights. country doesn't have a single juvenile court such. who is their stuff and welcome to the show thank you very much for coming in first of all about this new agreement that the russians and the u.s. are planning to sign what will be the new. rules of adoption will there be new rules there are a few changes and a few rules in this new government because this is the first agreement with the united states of america which will be signed i hope on these days and first of all we decrease the number of agencies official agencies which help candidates

for future adoptive parents to take our russian children to their american families and we stop at all so-called independent option because the most problems which we here with this area of interests. independent adoptions independent adoption is when is the study x. not through an agency like like like buying a tour well i do not tend to morocco you can go through an agency or you can compare you can go through an agency or you can just individually come there find out tell so this is individual adoption when people just buy a visa come to moscow and find a child somewhere and try to sometimes find in any person who can be intermediate or in this process for example in their independent lawyer so this will be abolished for good. only through asia one of well i phone. i read that

from now on adoption of russian children by families in the united states will be carried only i quote by u.s. based agencies that need the hague adoption convention requirements that were. there they principles they were there before and america was one of the countries who signed where the obligatory before that one of you can take attention to it it's necessary to be to be. recognized as an official agency in the united states of america based on principle of adoption of mention and. official it in syria must be recognized in russia is official agency for adoption process unfortunately we do not recognize the how commission on adoption of children but anyway and the situation with.

this restriction or. a. necessary step to be to be united as an official agency based on hark adoption principle conventual here you are you talking about the officially recognized agency because it's very it's very comfortable for the american partners to do to establish all this work based on hard adoption principles on which ok you recently protest because i'm sorry because we are pirates in different convention rights we call the nies as a convention of children's rights but the united states of america doesn't do it. at the same time as the united states of america recognize convention we do not part of this convention i see so you recently protested against an adoption of eight russian children it was care. we doubt through our u.s.

adoption organization doesn't this case that an official organization. performative option and from your point of view it was it had to be turned out to be illegal. what paved the way corruption russian corruption isn't good at the root of the power of all the problems with adoption you're right when when when you are talking about some corruptions roots because in each kids which we know in which we. researched for example the case of art of severely the case of denise or her record as a case of sisters. in each case we find out the found out some mistakes errors or illegal documents so it means that the candidates for future adoptive parents. presented some.

i can see not. a real papers not real documents and in this situation we didn't have any chance to check it because there were no instrument nobody to check so this this agreement will give you just. a minute deal we say agreement to build up to establish the body the central body of peace agreement which will consist of american specialists and russian specialists minister for education and from department of justice of the not is this of america is russia planning to to sign similar similar agreements with countries in europe yes of course unfortunately during the last eight years eighteen years which we. have had. international adoptions we

don't have enough enough agreements and we have only one agreement was italian republic fortunately and our goal is to establish or decide all these contacts agreement or treaters we all contras from where adoptive parents come to russia to pick up due to take and to adopt our russian children cross border adoptions gone wrong have shown the failure of international law to look after children right spotlights. reports. of. a russian boy flown back to moscow by he's adopted if them alina america the story made headlines a year ago public indignation and made lawmakers of the two countries work on the solution seven year old are there live on the plane alone with a note from these adoptive mother she claimed the boy was mentally unstable and she

could no longer care for him after what happened to our two on the russian foreign ministry immediately called for suspension of all adoptions by u.s. citizens russia in the u. west eventually started drafting a bilateral agreement concerning the now after seven rounds of negotiation the document is about to be signed a set of rules governing cross border adoption is believed to guarantee the safety of russian children adopted by parents from the u.s. but america is just one out of dozens of countries where russian infants find a home currently one hundred thirty thousand kids are in a waiting list for potentially being adopted by foreigners many russians believe the country should try and solve the problem of abandoned children domestically as for the international law there is another area which is believed to be on the regulated cross border disputes between divorced. parents like in the case of

elizabeth who was abducted and taken across international borders by her own parents three times a russian poorly gave custody to the girl's mother while the french authorities took the father's side cases like this it usually takes the efforts of diplomats and lawyers on both sides to reach an amicable deal between the two parties. you mentioned this agreement with italy that you have in europe two years ago oh european country some other countries that you're working with today we started to walk on this matter on this issue starting from whiskeys which we look to. just so yeah and now or agreement with the french republic is almost through did and i hope it will be signed probably next spring. where we can agree meant there was israel because israel. has

a bricked is too big for dogs and many russian children listen pal you speak is norwegian with feel and love you work with and. with a great deal of agency with a great deal of cases many countries but the most cases the most tragic cases that we hear about in the news the news comes from america how would you explain this regularity. of russian adopted children to children in the united states. i was to do notices of america just three weeks ago and we know this was not the first time. it was a special we visit the center internet and the national center for missing and exploited children and not me is american specialist told me the level of violence and cruelty in the american. emulous too high

too high so you can see is that if situations saudi tours russian children towards all children are known to toward all children even their own children yes absolutely so so you want your saying now that american families generally cruel to . say so but as americans what is really says that all cruelty is more and more and more every year among among native americans or among immigrants or first wave immigrants i can share and share and. i think in the. kinds of families where we can find it and i can compare this to asian isn't that it is of american in russia because russia is a problem of cruelty and violence in our families against native children not only against or adopted children used to. you

said in one of your interviews that since the adoption started while well like a wide practice more than fifteen years ago seven billion probably needs in years ago seventeen russian children have died in the united states as a result of child abuse but some sixty thousand children born in russia have been adopted by families in the sixty thousand children maybe more seventeen of them died can we talk about an exceptional level of violence seventeen out of sixty thousand. and you see a lot of large numbers doesn't work in this issue and i can say is that. not sixty thousand probably much more about maybe more than a hundred thousand because we do not. have any information about so kind

independence adoption we don't have any information children who were placed from russia through the night as they said they live across the border adoption like yeah exactly even now we have two cases children who were sent for work cation and sealings united states of america. is this woman to get free is the goal for example. which now is leaving the family in the state of iowa and the problem is that. parents are not parents exactly because they don't have any judicial status. to work to raise a child they don't want to adopt him. do not want to let him go home to russia this is a zero situation says part of the presidential commission there for children's

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machine on the dot com. welcome back to spotlight i'm al gore in auburn my guest on the show is spiral our staff of the presidential commission for children's rights panel you just mentioned in the exceptional case in the state of iowa in the united states when when a guy from russia a kid went on vacation to stay with american family years ago yeah they don't want to adopt him and they don't want to send them back to russia and what about his own parents what are they doing where are they are they in russia does the ad living parents no no no no he's not his or from the prophet so he was sent on a vacation by an orphanage away by orphans you know with no support or for non-government organization and now we hear

a second case when children were replaced from the russian federation for vacation to that states of america and to a problem for years for free days a goal is a head to be back but didn't. so i don't why does that happen this is a kind of fake cheryl adoption i can say but this is not a legal adult show they actually nuking the kids i mean i mean but the kid has no rights if he's there is illegally so what do american courts say about that all american official said told us that were is not violence or is not cruelty toward these children so or we don't have any authority to to do something even if me if you go to the united states and stay there for three years instead of three months they'll kick you out because you're violating the laws so why is the kid staying with three years and it's well you. in saying that i cannot explain the situation

because we hear of some papers from some response from american officials from the state of or your some of the cd away of us child leave now. this is they didn't see any any violations of law anywhere else. and as we talked about seventeen died or killed children in american adoptive families i can see. with the words of former members of the german burly. american i was there in the russian federation he told me that even while on is too much even ones do much ok the russian you mentioned that in russia the level of violence to be frank in families is as high as the united states is there true. even towards their own children we can compare because we don't know the exact

truth about the situation but the level of violence and cruelty against children adults or children need to chill is too high in conference how how how how serious is this problem with russia and who except your office is dealing with the problems of violence against children in russia family from my point of view this is the main problem of russian families in russian society because the level of cruelty and violence against sudan in russian families is too high to play and you can see that all problems of small children is going from of these be here of their parents. abusing violence cruelty to work children. and we're working on the situation we're working with prosecutors we're working with and seems to get if the police authority is with

a social worker because my my idea is to start to walk when the family just is staying on the border of this social instability and we have to start to work with this family starting early. but to prevent future cruelty of violence and the last time you came to this studio we talked with in this studio we talked about special juvenile courts and you said that pretty soon special juvenile justice will start working the courts will open when will that be you when will you say is a problem is that in the russian society and first of all in russian mentality the juvenile system of juneau justice is now something. like a ghost like a ghost and. many of our russian people. do

not know exactly what is this afraid of this carry out. so-called juvenile justice so i think we may get away with this is that many russians are against you in all cases is that because russians don't like judges i don't believe it maybe maybe not don't don't don't like judges at all maybe afraid or scary about judges and all the judge system but we have decided that we made the political decision to stop these. the future a lot of juvenile system that we have we hear some juvenile courts in russian federation similar regions here's a so-called pioneer sprawl ject. and journalists in our courts and started to walk a broadly ten years ago is the russian federation we can't we can research experience we can present this experience to the public discussion for example and

we're. the bull for the situation when some people in russian society for these doing or seize them or some against so in this situation we first of all need to calm down on them and now they're not a problem we discussed in spotlight was the necessity of our children's arbitrement in schools because according to to statistics and is detested story. but it's a terrific lie in two thousand and nine. thirty nine hundred children have committed suicide in two thousand and ten thirty seven hundred children have committed suicide because of humiliation at school is something done about it are ombudsman coming to schools probably were promised as the problem is that official figure but we know that the number of poor children more

money is her and the situation we're looking for some decision not very expensive decision but necessary decision in the one i was there with is to establish a so-called mediation. or mediation group or mediation mediator who can be between. the school for it is parents and children and where we're looking for the decision to establish psychologist in every in every school oh maybe to establish the institute of a school or school commissioner for juveniles rights. few different issues but all of them. can visit system for prevention of so high numbers of suicide. young children but who will children trust i mean you need

a lot of people young people that will be trusted by kids well well well you can have britney spears working at it as such a person mediating but. you need people of this level of trust from. this is a main idea to have a person. who can be. who who children can trust to and who they will talk to i mean exactly and i'm sure that every city in every region we can find such a person can do it and the problem is that nobody wants to search his people his person who can be mediator or some. unofficial authority for these children ever since but there are hundreds of schools so we need hundreds of people like what one was a major source of prevention for children. to the form of

trust. a special term for special tell you what we are we hear that over there all number which now are working in a region in the recent years telephone psychologist it was where you have worse yes i can say that i have checked in many regions and more than sixty regions and region of these two forms of organ and. every week they got a good two or three calls from children who has ideas about maybe future suicide thank you thank you very much prague and just to remind you that they're my guest in this video today was part of the presidential commission that puts. children's rights and that's it for now from all of us if you want to add your sales pipeline to rough someone of the mind that you think i should invite scared to do studio just drop me a line or palomino past the t.v.

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